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Limu Tolkki · Dec 18, 2006, 06:30 AM // 06:30

I've been killing necro boss Jerneh Nightbringer. Ii've killed he about 20-30 times and I haven't got The Nightbringer yet... I can't kill him while he have 2 or 3 elementalist friends (thats about 1 of 3). So I've been thinking that what about if I can't get this green if there isn't those elementalist friends...

But am I able to get it, or not?

Jedimagician · Dec 18, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12

if you are with hench they can steal your drops, if you come up with a build that can kill him 1v1 then you could use your hench to kill his group, then send your hench away until their grey on party list, then solo the boss... hope that helps

LicensedLuny · Dec 18, 2006, 07:13 AM // 07:13

IIRC, the odds of a boss dropping his green thing are 1/10 normally. These are general odds, so individual results will vary. I don't know the specifics of that boss, but maybe the program is set so he only drops it when with the elementalist buddies you speak of?

Of course, if you're using heroes or henchmen, they're getting drops, too. Maybe the green thing has dropped a few times but been assigned to AI. When things drop for the AI, there's no mention of it on the screen and you don't see them pick it up - it's simply not there.

Limu Tolkki · Dec 18, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47

Always soloing, I dont understand why it don't drop it in 20-30 kills except it drops it only with those eles, I've also kill it if theres one ele, but 2 or 3 is too much

Cow Tale · Dec 18, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49

Anti Farm Code Maybe?

Cebe · Dec 18, 2006, 09:17 AM // 09:17

I solod the Scar Eater 72 times (no joke) before he dropped his green for me. THis was after I'd taken my Ele through Elona so there really can't have been any anti-farming code applied. Sometimes you just get really REALLY bad luck!

RTSFirebat · Dec 18, 2006, 09:24 AM // 09:24

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Originally Posted by Limu Tolkki

Always soloing, I dont understand why it don't drop it in 20-30 kills except it drops it only with those eles, I've also kill it if theres one ele, but 2 or 3 is too much

Lets state a few facts:

Drops are random
Who has the Favour of the God DOESN'T drop rate - Can't believe some people still think it does...
You Class doesn't affect your drop rate
Soloing increases the chance of you getting drop, but the change of getting a green is still very very low.
Over farming will activate the Anti-Farming Code
Its all down to luck, not chance.

And there you have it.

**cosyfiep** · Dec 18, 2006, 09:27 AM // 09:27

I found that if I was the same prof as the boss I would not get the green item from it (either primary or secondary)....so I might suggest trying it with a different character and then see what happens.....but that is just my bad luck.

Cow Tale · Dec 18, 2006, 09:37 AM // 09:37

u soloed 72 times b4 he droped? sounds like Ghial is for me, still hasnt droped for me ever. scars a different story for me. he dropped 6 times for me yesterday out of about 20 runs.

RTSFirebat · Dec 18, 2006, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

I found that if I was the same prof as the boss I would not get the green item from it (either primary or secondary)....so I might suggest trying it with a different character and then see what happens.....but that is just my bad luck.

Its just your bad luck. The class your farming as doesn't make any difference. I use my W/Mo for farming all sorts.

Don't give him information which simply is not true.

Mournblade · Dec 18, 2006, 02:35 PM // 14:35

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Its all down to luck, not chance.

If you believe in luck, then luck influences chance. So chance is still very much a factor here.

Lord Naike · Dec 18, 2006, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Are you in america coz the favor of the gods is always in europe.

Tachyon · Dec 18, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

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Originally Posted by Lord Naike

Are you in america coz the favor of the gods is always in europe.

What the hell has that got to do with anything? Having favour of the Gods has absolutely no effect on the green drop rates at all!

RTSFirebat · Dec 18, 2006, 03:23 PM // 15:23

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Originally Posted by Lord Naike

Are you in america coz the favor of the gods is always in europe.

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Good god... read my post above.

Who has the favour has NOTHING TO DO WITH DROPS... NOTHING AT ALL!!!

The favour only effects UW/FoW Access, it doesn't effect drops.

Not gold, green, blue, white, purple or anything else.

Sorry but what you posted is 100% incorrect.

Wandering Star · Dec 18, 2006, 03:54 PM // 15:54

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Originally Posted by Jedimagician

if you are with hench they can steal your drops, if you come up with a build that can kill him 1v1 then you could use your hench to kill his group, then send your hench away until their grey on party list, then solo the boss... hope that helps

Just wondered, do you know if this actually works? (the part about if the hench are `greyed out` then they dont get any drops)

MegaMouse · Dec 18, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Green drops are random, so it just sounds like the anti-farm code has kicked in on you. My suggestion is to go and hit a few areas that you wouldn't normaly go into a few times then come back. That should take the farming code off. I hardly ever get the good green drops myself but almost always get the ones that no-one else seem to get, not sure if it is luck or if I am cursed.

Mega Mouse

Olfin Bedwere · Dec 18, 2006, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by Wandering Star

Just wondered, do you know if this actually works? (the part about if the hench are `greyed out` then they dont get any drops)

Nope, not true. Only way to get all the drops is to solo which means going alone. By yourself. If you need proff, move the henchemn out till there greyed and then kill something that`s drops money and see if they still share the drop.

isamu kurosawa · Dec 18, 2006, 10:24 PM // 22:24

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Originally Posted by Olfin Bedwere

Nope, not true. Only way to get all the drops is to solo which means going alone. By yourself. If you need proff, move the henchemn out till there greyed and then kill something that`s drops money and see if they still share the drop.

it is true, but gold is shared regardless so thats a useless test. if you enter with a team of real people and do the same you will see they get 0 drops.

My Green Storage · Dec 19, 2006, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Sending the heroes/henchies away DOES NOT take away your green drop

Gold coins - yes .. they still share amongst the party
If the green drops and their name is greyed out, YOU get the green

I've done that a few times based on the run it takes to get to the boss.

In fact I've been playing around with E/A solo and used heroes henchies to work my way to sharptooth (Sunward Marches) when it was clear, I sent them away, solo'd him and it dropped first try.

It's been proven / noted that sending them away where their name is grey'd out works just as if you went and solo'd by yourself without them

But yea, anti-farm code / bad luck is the reason something doesnt drop after x amount of times.

I've done exuro 12-15 times and not have him drop. I could come back after a half hour / hour and he'd drop first try.

Nightbringer hasn't dropped the last 5-8 times I've tried.
Ghial and my first time W/Mo build, 4 or 5 times and he hasn't dropped it.
Mind you, it takes a hell of a long time W/Mo style .. so if it takes 8 - 10 minutes, I do it once and say screw it. ...
Skybringer took about 5 tries (Practice)
Mindcluder hasnt in 4-6 tries (Practice)

Faer · Dec 19, 2006, 05:12 AM // 05:12

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Sorry but what you posted is 100% incorrect.

To be fair, there was nothing wrong with what Lord Naike said. There was a question and a statetment, which while the statement is not entirely true, it is not exactly 100% incorrect either. The post says nothing at all about Favor being related to drops in the actual text, though it does leave that feeling...

Dec 18, 2006, 06:30 AM // 06:30	#1
Limu Tolkki Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Hate The [Cape] Profession: E/	I can't get green I've been killing necro boss Jerneh Nightbringer. Ii've killed he about 20-30 times and I haven't got The Nightbringer yet... I can't kill him while he have 2 or 3 elementalist friends (thats about 1 of 3). So I've been thinking that what about if I can't get this green if there isn't those elementalist friends... But am I able to get it, or not?

Dec 18, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12	#2
Jedimagician Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006	if you are with hench they can steal your drops, if you come up with a build that can kill him 1v1 then you could use your hench to kill his group, then send your hench away until their grey on party list, then solo the boss... hope that helps

Dec 18, 2006, 07:13 AM // 07:13	#3
LicensedLuny Badly Influenced Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread) Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish	IIRC, the odds of a boss dropping his green thing are 1/10 normally. These are general odds, so individual results will vary. I don't know the specifics of that boss, but maybe the program is set so he only drops it when with the elementalist buddies you speak of? Of course, if you're using heroes or henchmen, they're getting drops, too. Maybe the green thing has dropped a few times but been assigned to AI. When things drop for the AI, there's no mention of it on the screen and you don't see them pick it up - it's simply not there.

Dec 18, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47	#4
Limu Tolkki Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Hate The [Cape] Profession: E/	Always soloing, I dont understand why it don't drop it in 20-30 kills except it drops it only with those eles, I've also kill it if theres one ele, but 2 or 3 is too much

Dec 18, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49	#5
Cow Tale Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ocean Shores, Washington Guild: Last Sun Rise Profession: W/Mo	Anti Farm Code Maybe?

Dec 18, 2006, 09:17 AM // 09:17	#6
Cebe The 5th Celestial Boss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Inverness, Scotland Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO] Profession: E/	I solod the Scar Eater 72 times (no joke) before he dropped his green for me. THis was after I'd taken my Ele through Elona so there really can't have been any anti-farming code applied. Sometimes you just get really REALLY bad luck!

Dec 18, 2006, 09:27 AM // 09:27	#8
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	I found that if I was the same prof as the boss I would not get the green item from it (either primary or secondary)....so I might suggest trying it with a different character and then see what happens.....but that is just my bad luck.

Dec 18, 2006, 09:37 AM // 09:37	#9
Cow Tale Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ocean Shores, Washington Guild: Last Sun Rise Profession: W/Mo	u soloed 72 times b4 he droped? sounds like Ghial is for me, still hasnt droped for me ever. scars a different story for me. he dropped 6 times for me yesterday out of about 20 runs.

Dec 18, 2006, 03:14 PM // 15:14	#12
Lord Naike Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Austria Guild: Knights Online [KO] Profession: W/Mo	Are you in america coz the favor of the gods is always in europe.

Dec 18, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28	#16
MegaMouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: south mississippi Guild: Warriors Of Melos WOM Profession: E/N	Green drops are random, so it just sounds like the anti-farm code has kicked in on you. My suggestion is to go and hit a few areas that you wouldn't normaly go into a few times then come back. That should take the farming code off. I hardly ever get the good green drops myself but almost always get the ones that no-one else seem to get, not sure if it is luck or if I am cursed. Mega Mouse

Dec 19, 2006, 02:07 AM // 02:07	#19
My Green Storage Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Guild: My Blue Storage Profession: N/	Sending the heroes/henchies away DOES NOT take away your green drop Gold coins - yes .. they still share amongst the party If the green drops and their name is greyed out, YOU get the green I've done that a few times based on the run it takes to get to the boss. In fact I've been playing around with E/A solo and used heroes henchies to work my way to sharptooth (Sunward Marches) when it was clear, I sent them away, solo'd him and it dropped first try. It's been proven / noted that sending them away where their name is grey'd out works just as if you went and solo'd by yourself without them But yea, anti-farm code / bad luck is the reason something doesnt drop after x amount of times. I've done exuro 12-15 times and not have him drop. I could come back after a half hour / hour and he'd drop first try. Nightbringer hasn't dropped the last 5-8 times I've tried. Ghial and my first time W/Mo build, 4 or 5 times and he hasn't dropped it. Mind you, it takes a hell of a long time W/Mo style .. so if it takes 8 - 10 minutes, I do it once and say screw it. ... Skybringer took about 5 tries (Practice) Mindcluder hasnt in 4-6 tries (Practice)